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Title: In Thine Eyes
Pairing: Sam/Dean
Rating: PG-13
Word Count: ~2600
Spoilers: Very vague for S1; takes place between Dead Man's Blood and Salvation
Warnings: Incest
Disclaimer: I don't own them; that honor belongs to Kripke, et al.
Notes: I originally meant this to be for [livejournal.com profile] destina, for her birthday. Then I didn't get it done in time, and then it didn't end up being what I'd originally planned. So, um, Des, I'll try again :) Many thanks to [livejournal.com profile] pierson, [livejournal.com profile] synecdochic, [livejournal.com profile] nu_breed and [livejournal.com profile] poetdiva28 for reassurance and handholding, and huge thanks and kudos to [livejournal.com profile] janissa11 for the fantastic beta. *hugs* I hope y'all enjoy the story.

Summary: John makes a discovery he really didn't want.






It's quiet out; John doesn't know how long he's been out here, walking aimlessly around the mostly empty motel, circling the building over and over, trying to work off some of the restless tension knotted inside him.

It's good to be back with his boys, but there's fear lurking in him that he can't push down completely. Fear of the fight to come. Fear of losing his boys. Fear of failing--them, himself, Mary. John doesn't pray very often; he lost his hope and belief the day Mary died. But he finds himself fingering the rosary beads in his pocket, brief snatches of prayers and half-formed thoughts skittering through his mind. He comes back to one, over and over, and lets it go.

Just let them be safe. Please...keep my boys safe.

Something rustles in the wooded area out beyond the dimly lit parking lot, probably a raccoon or possum shuffling through the underbrush, and John blinks back to awareness. It's getting late; a glance at his watch shows it's past ten, and when the clouds draw away, pushed by the slight breeze, the moon shines down brightly. Nights like this, quiet and soft, John could close his eyes and imagine he's on a porch swing, Mary finishing up tucking the boys in. She would join him, snuggling up close, body sweet and warm against his.

Soon. It'll all be over soon, and maybe then he can rest, just a little bit.

That's the thought that carries him back to the motel room, gentle breeze bracketing him, blowing the hair lying against the back of his neck.

The curtains are partially open in the window to his room, and John pauses to look inside, getting used to the feel of knowing someone else is in there all over again.

If he thinks about it, John might say he figured he'd see Sam sprawled across one bed, and Dean across the other, either asleep or watching TV.

What he actually sees, in flashes from the flickering light from the television, is Dean sitting up against the headboard of one bed, with Sam kneeling over him, leaning in toward him, head angled down.

It isn't until John focuses, sees Dean's hands slide from Sam's waist up under his shirt, that he really realizes what he's seeing. Focusing is a mistake; it allows him to see other details, like Sam's hands cupping -- cradling -- Dean's face. The soft way they seem to blend together. Fit together.

He blinks, then blinks again; shuts his eyes for a moment or two, hoping the images will change when he looks again. They don't; his boys are still--

Jesus. They're kissing.

It's not a flying-by-the-seat-of-your-pants impulsive-moment kiss, either. This, what he sees, what he's watching, is different. It's the slow, deep kind of kiss you share with someone you love. Someone you're in love with. The kind of kiss you share when you've shared it before, when you've spent time learning the taste and feel of someone.

John knows what those kisses look and feel like; he shared them with Mary.

And now his boys...his sons....

He watches, frozen in place, as the kiss deepens, their body language screaming familiarity, need, and love. Dean pushes Sam's shirt upward as they kiss, exposing the clean line of Sam's back. There's a muffled sound, barely audible through the partially-open window, and John takes a step back as Sam draws away from Dean to pull his shirt up and off. There's another low sound, and John hears "Dad" and "shouldn't," though he can't tell who said it.

There's a long moment when his sons hold still, forehead to forehead, no movement beyond one of Dean's fingers rubbing lightly at Sam's shoulder. It doesn't last, though; Sam ducks his head once more, large hands holding Dean's head like it's something precious, and then Sam lies back, pulling Dean with him, mouths moving against each other.

John turns away from the window, away from his boys, his stomach churning with sour heat.

~~~~~


It's still quiet out, though the air hangs heavier than it did earlier. It mutes the sound of the truck door shutting, when John grabs the bottle of whiskey he keeps stashed behind the passenger seat.

The moon is playing peek-a-boo with the clouds, casting streaks of light with streaks of shadow all over the ground; silent beauty that hides death.

Once upon a time, John loved the night. Camping in the woods with his dad and uncle during the summer, hayrides and bonfires in the fall, hell, even night-fire exercises when he was at Lejeune.

Nighttime was when he and Mary made love under blankets in their bed, or sometimes out under the stars, in the backyard. He can still picture her with those same streaks of moonlight and shadow sliding over her body.

Nighttime was when he walked a squalling newborn Dean, colicky almost from day one and impossible to soothe. When he took baby duty so Mary could snatch a couple hours of sleep, worn out from too little rest, and nursing, and housework, for far too long. Later, when he would take Dean on his lap and read him bedtime stories.

Later still, when he and Dean would tuck Sam in together, and then go on to Dean's room to read and wait for Mommy to come in.

John hasn't liked nighttime since the night it took Mary away from him, and he misses that, that innocence, almost as much as he misses Mary.

He feels like he lost the last, remaining piece of innocence he had, tonight.

The whiskey burns going down; it's the only heat he feels inside himself at the moment.

~~~~~


John slips silently into the room, then stands there in the shadows, looking. Observing.

At first he thinks they're both asleep. Dean's still leaning up against the headboard, body relaxed and loose. Sam's curled up beside him, head resting against Dean's leg. If it weren't for what John saw an hour or two ago, he would think it was just another night, his boys crashed out on a bed. Except he did see it, and now that he looks, he sees Dean has one hand tangled in Sam's hair, his fingers curled, stroking gently through the tangles.

Soothing. Comforting.

When he forces his eyes away from that, back up to Dean's face, John isn't surprised to see his eldest son looking at him. Watching him, gaze steady and even.

The words come out before John realizes he's going to say anything, and he's surprised by the rasp in his voice. "How long?"

Dean shifts on the bed and Sam sighs in his sleep. "Dad--"

"I saw you, Dean. Earlier. Now. How.Long." He can't keep the anger from his voice; doesn't even try.

There's a slight movement, like Dean's shrugging. The motion is awkward, uneven; John thinks maybe Dean's trying to not wake Sam up. When he speaks, his voice is pitched low, almost soft. "Couple of months, maybe a little longer." He hesitates, then adds, "You weren't--. We didn't mean for you to see."

There's something else there, something unspoken that makes the hair on the back of John's neck rise, but he ignores it. Tries to ignore it, and the burn in his stomach, the flare of icy heat that screams wrong and stop them, stop it, what would Mary say?.

Dean might be trying to be quiet, to let Sam sleep, but John can't. Won't. The words come out loud, angry, full of indignation.

"It's wrong, Dean. He's--you're brothers, for Chrissake. How could you even let something like this start?" The anger lies along his skin like a layer of ice, burning deep inside him. "It's wrong, and it's--it's sick."

"No. It's not." Sam's voice is rough with sleep, but the words are clear.

John takes several steps further into the room, flipping the switch on the small lamp as he goes by. He'll be damned if he does this in the dark. He's not the one who should be hiding his face. He stares at both boys; watches Sam shift and sit up, though he doesn't move away from Dean.

"Excuse me?"

Dean opens his mouth, but Sam beats him to it, mouth curving into a smile that doesn't reach his eyes. "I said no, Dad. It's not wrong. Not for us." He glances at Dean, once, then back at John, eyes hot. "It's about the only thing that's right in this fucked up mess we've got going on here. Sir."

It's amazing, in a twisted way, how much sarcasm Sam packs into that one small word.

"Sam--" John drops into the nearest chair, glad it's there, actually, because he thinks he might've just landed on his ass otherwise, since his legs are buckling under him. He rubs one hand over his face, wondering where he went wrong. What he did or didn't do that led his boys here, to this. Not for us. The hell did that mean, anyway?

"What's wrong with you--with the two of you? You don't--do this. You don't, brothers aren't supposed to…fuck each other." The word is hot and bitter on his tongue, and John regrets saying it the minute it's out, because now his mind can fill in the blanks he'd been ignoring.

"It's more than fucking each other," Sam says calmly, though his voice is tight. He's shifted away from Dean just a little; they're not touching now, just sitting side-by-side on the edge of the bed, like it's any ordinary night. But there's something palpable there. It practically shimmers in the space between them. "And it's no one's business but ours."

"What the hell else could it be?" Even to his own ears John sounds bewildered, and he catches a look between Sam and Dean, a look that makes him feel ashamed and confused, which makes him angry all over again, because if anyone should be ashamed, it sure as hell isn't him.

Some of that must show in the way he watches them, because Dean meets his eyes before looking sideways at Sam, like he's deferring to him. It strikes John then that while his eldest son is not afraid to face anything head-on, he's clearly out of his element here.

It makes sense, because Dean has always pushed down his emotions; shoved them to the side the way John tried to teach both boys. Emotions were dangerous and would only hold them down, create problems for them. He loves his boys, and he knows they love him. But the words don't get spoken except on rare occasions, and even then, seldom do they say 'I love you' -- any of them.

Sam studies him for a minute, mouth twisted into a frown. "It's knowing--we're not alone. That someone else gets it."

"Gets--it?" It's been a long time since John felt slow and stupid like this, and he doesn't like it. Resents that it's his boys creating this feeling in him. "What is there to get?"

Sam hisses faintly, impatience bleeding out of him. "All of this," he gestures, taking in him, Dean, John, the weapons strewn about, and the scraps of paper and books and maps all around them. "Sewing up a stab wound, or a cut. Or the hours of research, only to have something dead end. The stench of rotting bodies. Never knowing what's going to jump out at you, or if the next time you do a job might be the last time you see--" He cuts himself off, and John closes his eyes when Sam leans a little toward Dean.

Yesterday, he wouldn't have thought twice about it. His boys have always been close to each other, relied on each other; John spent their lives drilling into them that family -- the three of them -- was all they could depend on.

Now he sees other things in that tiny gesture; imagines so much in what he doesn't see.

There's a noise, a snort, and John opens his eyes to see Dean staring at him. "We're not gonna--" Dean licks his lips, and sighs. "You weren't supposed to see anything. Or know. It's not like we're walking around holding hands or shit like that. We're not gonna shove it in your face." His face tightens, mouth drawing down in a frown that matches the one his brother's wearing. "We've spent most of the last year with no one but each other, Dad. Most of that time, in between jobs, we were chasing a cold trail trying to find you, and Sam was dealing with his shit, and I almost died--and it just. He's always there. I'm always there. I dunno, it just works." Dean shrugs again, a careless gesture, but his eyes show fear, need, uncertainty.

It just works.

"I can't--this isn't anything I'm ever going to be okay with," John says slowly, the words painful to form, to push out. "I can't, boys. Do you understand?" He stands up to pace from the small desk to the bathroom door, and back again. "Whatever you say, about how or why it started or that it works for you, it's. It goes against everything -- everything -- I was ever told or taught."

The anger from earlier rolls through him, mixing with sadness, with his own sense of uncertainty and failure. It's a roiling, unsettled ball in his stomach, and John wishes he could treat it like he'd treat too much to drink: throw it up, swallow some aspirin, and move on.

"I still--" He stops for a minute, eyes moving from Dean, to Sam, and back to Dean. Both boys are standing now, shoulder-to-shoulder; Dean looks vulnerable, and Sam looks grim. Ready to do battle, if necessary. John shakes his head. "You're my boys. I love you; I'll always love you. But I can't--see you together. Like that. I can't."

Dean nods; Sam is slower, hesitating like he's still expecting John to throw a punch at one or both of them. "What're you saying, Dad?"

What is he saying? John sighs, feeling every one of his years, and then some, and sits down on the side of the other bed. "Just be brothers. Okay? Nothing more, while we're. While I'm around."

"Not a problem," Sam says, Dean echoing the words. Then Sam is right in front of him, and John's too tired to fight about anything with him, especially this; opens his mouth to tell Sam that, barely stopping the words when he realizes Sam's talking. "…never meant to hurt you. You really weren't--supposed to find out."

He blows out a breath, glancing up to see Dean standing still, face still young and vulnerable, like he's waiting for John to change his mind, to yell or throw them -- him -- out. He smiles at both boys, but talks to Dean. Sam will do what he thinks he needs to do and never mind what John thinks, but not Dean.

"I know," he says, voice as gentle as he can manage. "It's--It'll be okay. We'll be okay."

It's worth the bitter taste in his mouth to see Dean relax a little, tension disappearing from his shoulders.

John doesn't have a clue in the world how they'll be okay; he's never going to be able to accept that his sons are lovers. But one battle at a time. First the demon, then they'll worry about the rest of this. He stands up, heading for the phone to call the office and ask for a rollaway bed.

One battle at a time.

"Let's get some rest, boys. We got a lot of planning and prep to do in the morning."

Their voices chime in together, "Yes, Sir," and John can almost pretend nothing's different. Just another night, getting ready for another hunt.

~fin~
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Date: 2007-06-22 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] offtheceiling.livejournal.com
eeee! *bites fist* I love John-finds-out stories SO MUCH. Especially when they're, you know, good. And this one is way good! YAY!

Date: 2007-07-01 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
*beams happily* Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed it, and I appreciate the comment :)

Date: 2007-06-22 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nu-breed.livejournal.com
I was looking forward to seeing what you ended up with after the first part you showed me. It didn't disappoint, hon. Lovely charactersation and a satisfying ending. I love your John voice here, especially.

Date: 2007-06-22 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
That icon works very well with this, too. *hugs you* I'm glad you liked it, honey, and I appreciate the comments. I also realized I'd left you out of the thanks, and I've rectified that, because your input really helped.

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From: [identity profile] nu-breed.livejournal.com - Date: 2007-06-22 01:51 am (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2007-06-22 01:16 am (UTC)
tigriswolf: (brothers)
From: [personal profile] tigriswolf
Ooh, nice.

Date: 2007-07-01 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

Date: 2007-06-22 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zortified.livejournal.com
It goes against everything -- everything -- I was ever told or taught."

I wonder if John will ever realise the irony of his words -- that he's the one who taugfht his own boys most of what they believe, so clearly he never taught them this. And that most of what John grew up believing isn't exactly true -- that monsters really do exist. Ah, poor John.

This was really well done!

Date: 2007-07-01 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I wonder if John will ever realise the irony of his words -- that he's the one who taugfht his own boys most of what they believe, so clearly he never taught them this.

And that's really it--the whole thing is awash in irony. He taught them to be silent and secretive about all aspects of their lives; taught them to rely on no one but themselves and each other, and made it so they were pretty much the only ones IN each other's lives. Which isn't to say they didn't manage to break out of the box once in a while -- but I think it came at great cost to both of them.

Thanks, James :) I'm really thrilled you liked it, and appreciate the comments :)

Date: 2007-06-22 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yume-odori.livejournal.com
that's nice.

you really caught the atmosphere.
and the characters are well written, too :D

but my fav is this:
Dean's still leaning up against the headboard, body relaxed and loose. Sam's curled up beside him, head resting against Dean's leg.

this image is just to sweet ^^

Date: 2007-07-01 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much :) I love the visual of the boys relaxed enough with each other that they can rest like that, y'know?

Glad you enjoyed the story :) Thanks for the comments!

Date: 2007-06-22 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wilde-moon.livejournal.com
This is achingly beautiful. John finding out is one of my favorite scenarios, and you did it so well!

Date: 2007-07-01 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you very much! I'm thrilled you enjoyed it, and I really appreciate the comments :)

Date: 2007-06-22 02:18 am (UTC)
ext_8208: (Sam/Dean)
From: [identity profile] merihn.livejournal.com
Aww, I really liked this. I liked the way you had John handle it and they way he reminisced about Mary. Their lives are so sad and I like how you captured that.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you, honey :) Their lives really are sad -- all three of them. So much loss and grief and anger there :(

I'm so glad you enjoyed it :) Thanks so much for the comments. *hugs*

Date: 2007-06-22 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelonejuliet.livejournal.com
This is, by far, one of the best "John finds out" fics I've ever read. Kudos. It's great. :)

Date: 2007-07-01 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! *beams* I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed it, and I appreciate the feedback :)

Date: 2007-06-22 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strippedpink.livejournal.com
Oh YAY! A lot! I really liked this! *twirls fic around*

Thanks so much for sharing! :D

Date: 2007-07-01 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank YOU :) *twirls you around* *beams*

Glad you enjoyed the story, and I appreciate the feedback :) Also, your icon? Guh. *stares at it some more*

Date: 2007-06-22 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aynslee.livejournal.com
Wow, what an intense topic to cover. I like that John was obviously devastated, but that he still managed to let his boys know that he loved them, even through his shock and horror. I love that Sam was absolutely not backing down, and that Dean was steady but a bit more unsure in the face of their father being upset.

Very nice work!!

Date: 2007-07-01 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I really think that Sam would be the one to stand defiant and ready to fight, whereas Dean would be uncertain and hesitant--no matter how much he loves Sam. After all, Sam walked away (though I'm sure it hurt him a LOT) and survived...and I don't think Dean could do that. Especially not in light of what he says to Sam during the ep with the striega (whose name I can't think of now, argh!), about how dad never looked at him the same afterward. He spent, literally, his whole life after that trying to meet what HE thought were John's expectations of him -- and then we see what he does at the beginning of AHBL2; it's like he doesn't even hesitate. So yeah, Dean would hold back. He would need the reassurance.

And John... man, that would be one hell of a blow. I mean, as much as I dig the incest thing, and slash...I'm a parent. Only one kid, so it's unlikely I'm going to get to experience this. But I know it would be one hell of a shock to ME, and I think John Winchester is probably a bit more straight-laced than I am. *g*

Um. All of which is a very long-winded way of saying 'thank you' :)

Date: 2007-06-22 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombean.livejournal.com
awww our boys are in love!!! and John-finds-out fics are always the best *jumps up and down* that made me so happy, you're awesome :)

Date: 2007-07-01 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Dude, they're so totally in love it sometimes hurts to see it :)

And thanks for the feedback! I'm really glad you enjoyed the story :)

Date: 2007-06-22 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenamydog.livejournal.com
I adore, "John finds out" fics, and this was no exception. Wonderful stuff hon. LOved it. You captured their voices really well.

Well done!

Date: 2007-07-01 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! It's a fantastic compliment, to be told you could hear their voices well. *beams* Wonderful feedback, and very appreciated :)

Date: 2007-06-22 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com
This is really well done. perfect voices, and very real feeling emotions.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed the story, and your feedback is very appreciated :)

Date: 2007-06-22 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geneli4.livejournal.com
ohhh, very nice! i espeically like this:

The anger from earlier rolls through him, mixing with sadness, with his own sense of uncertainty and failure. It's a roiling, unsettled ball in his stomach, and John wishes he could treat it like he'd treat too much to drink: throw it up, swallow some aspirin, and move on.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thanks, honey :) I was thinking when I wrote that...situations in my life that I wished I hadn't had to deal with, that's how I felt about them: it'd be nice if they could be treated like the flu, or a hangover. Throw up the poison and move on. If only life were so neat, huh?

*hugs you*

Date: 2007-06-22 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poetdiva28.livejournal.com
Dude, that was awesome. I don't know what you were going for originally, but I'm glad you missed.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I don't remember now what I was originally going for, either (less angst, more happy, I think)...but I'm very pleased with how it turned out.

*hugs* I appreciate the feedback :)

Date: 2007-06-22 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julorean.livejournal.com
Oooo. :mems: I love this. It's really interesting to see it from John's POV. And the reasoning behind it...that's basically my own reasoning for Wincest. That's why it works for them.

Great fic. Nicely bittersweet.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
They kind of got backed into a corner without meaning to, I think. But it does work for them (and ohmygodtheyaresoinLOVE. ahem).

Thanks for reading, and for the feedback :)

Date: 2007-06-23 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indelibility.livejournal.com
Wao, that was seriously intense. I love the way that John thought, his turmoil was so realistic, I'm blown away :D

Date: 2007-07-01 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you! I think it would be an enormous shock to any parent to discover something like that...and poor John, man. I believe he would be totally blown away.

Thanks for reading, and for the feedback :)

John is observent about some things

Date: 2007-06-23 09:49 pm (UTC)
ext_14888: Yummy (Default)
From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
He knows that Dean will not be okay if John doesn't come to terms with it. He knows that while Dean will contine to do what he feels is best and right for Sam that his dads opinion will eat him up inside. He also knows that Sam couldn't give a good gosh damn about what John thinks. I loved it.

Re: John is observent about some things

Date: 2007-07-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
You're right: Sam will do what he thinks needs to be done, and the hell with what John thinks. He survived walking out/away once; he could do it again. But Dean...man, if we've learned anything about Dean, it's that his feeling of self-worth is built upon how he perceives himself through his father's eyes. So he would be much more uncertain, more hesitant. Would need reassurance. The absence of that would destroy him as assuredly as the absence of Sam from his life.

Thanks for reading and for the feedback :)

Date: 2007-06-24 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com
Oh man, this hurts a little.

I also find it really interesting that you brought up Mary. In all the Wincest stories I've read, there always is great concern about John, Bobby, Missouri, WHOEVER finding out. But I'm not sure I've ever seen someone call out "what would Mary think?" More than anything else, that really caught me in the gut.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I think some of John's...shame...would be how he failed his wife in this crucial thing. Because brothers aren't supposed to DO that, and so obviously he messed up somewhere, so what would Mary think -- about the boys, and about how he raised them. What led to this point.

And you're right, now that I think about it--I haven't seen anyone else use that angle, either. Cool! *is a trendsetter* :)

Thanks for the comments, honey. Feedback from you always makes me warm and fuzzy :) *hugs*

Date: 2007-06-25 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moordeb.livejournal.com
Oh wow. This was just so beautiful and heartbreaking. I like that it's unresolved, but there's a sort of feeling that, over time, maybe, just maybe, John might eventually accept the relationship. I like too that despite finding out about the relationship, John still hasn't realised how he contributed to developing that level of closeness between his sons.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I like too that despite finding out about the relationship, John still hasn't realised how he contributed to developing that level of closeness between his sons.

Yeah, whether intentional or purely accidental, John doesn't see. And won't -- though that maybe intentional. If he looks too closely, questions too much, he would have to examine how he did things, and he already carries a pretty heavy load of guilt, I think.

I don't know if John ever would really be able to accept things, come to terms with them. Obviously it's something that's been rendered moot, but it does make me wonder. He would probably hope it was just 'a thing', something that would wear off when the tension and stress faded some...but if anything, I think the tension and stress of season two bound Sam and Dean closer than ever.

Thanks for the feedback--it's really appreciated :)

Date: 2007-06-25 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Dean (bayouskye))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
You write them so well.

here's a long moment when his sons hold still, forehead to forehead, no movement beyond one of Dean's fingers rubbing lightly at Sam's shoulder

I loved the closeness of that line, the whole story in fact. Dean and Sam just there for one another.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I love the little intimacies. Like forehead-to-forehead, or fingers grazing over a shoulder or a jaw. A gentle touch. And man, Sam and Dean are so in love, y'know? :)

Thanks so much, Terri :) I really appreciate the feedback, and I thrilled you enjoyed the story :)

Date: 2007-06-29 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fleshflutter.livejournal.com
John-finds-out stories always make me happy, but when they're as good as this one... words fail me. Just so much love. :)

Date: 2007-07-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed the story, and very much appreciate the feedback :)

Date: 2007-07-05 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
You know, I would never quibble at getting more stories from you, but - try again?! Oh, honey! This is wonderful! !! I loved the way John can't quite believe it, will never accept it, but there's work to do, and there's a certain inevitability he recognizes. But I also love that he registers his disapproval, and they don't really care, even though they didn't want to hurt him. OH YES. *g* I also love your John in this, the weariness in him, remembering Mary. And SamnDean, always together, even against John in this. The boys asking him, "What are you saying?", just to be sure it's all crystal, that he's not planning on walking away. Yep. I loved this. :D

Thank you so much for my birthday story. *clutches it and won't let you give it away!* *g*

Date: 2007-09-22 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Y'know, I have NO idea how I missed this feedback. *facepalm* I feel really bad, too, because gah, you sent it months ago! But I don't remember ever getting a notification on this. :(

I...am beyond thrilled that you liked this :) I didn't want the everything-ends-happily-ever-after feel to it, because what we've seen of John, I don't see him embracing the fact that his boys are together *that way*. He might be able to turn a blind eye to it, if it's not shoved in his face, but there's no way he'll embrace it or accept it--and I imagine he'd be feeling no small amount of guilt, too.

And there will always be, in MY mind, SamandDean, always together :)

Thank you so much, honey, and again, I'm sorry for not responding (long) before now. You give good feedback :) *snugs*

Date: 2007-07-31 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tattoo-kink.livejournal.com
It's not a flying-by-the-seat-of-your-pants impulsive-moment kiss, either. This, what he sees, what he's watching, is different. It's the slow, deep kind of kiss you share with someone you love. Someone you're in love with. The kind of kiss you share when you've shared it before, when you've spent time learning the taste and feel of someone.

John knows what those kisses look and feel like; he shared them with Mary.


That was heartwarming and at the same time heartbreaking and toe curling.

Very well written. YOu did a great job!

*mems*

Date: 2007-09-22 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I'm sorry to be so late responding--I'm thinking I missed some comment notifications, for the month of July *frowns*

Glad you enjoyed the story, and thanks for commenting on it. I really appreciate the feedback :)

Date: 2007-09-17 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drvsilla.livejournal.com
I really enjoyed this. That it isn't perfect, or quite accepted, but it still works. Like all the small intimacies between the boys, how closely tied & reliant they are on each other; it felt very SamandDean. No wonder John felt out of his element, and yet unable to break it apart.

Thanks. =]

Date: 2007-09-22 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Thank YOU for reading, and commenting! I'm glad the small intimacies came through--like they would for someone on the outside, looking in. And no, definitely not perfect, nor happily-ever-after, because I don't really believe John could go there. He might be able to turn a blind eye and ignore it if it's not shoved in his face...but never accept it.

Thanks again :)
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