question about time(lines) in SPN

[mickeym]

This is pretty much a loaded question anyway, but. Okay. (Oh! Do y'all see my absolutely GORGEOUS new icon? cha made it -- SAM'S SIDEBURNS FTW \o/ *eyes mollyamory and britomart_is *koff*)

Anyway. So. Dean spent four of (our) months in Hell, which translated down there to 40 years. John spent a year, about, so about 120 years.

And then there's Sam. I've seen varying opinions here and there in people's journals; I've seen some say six months and others say a year. But--we were roughly halfway through the season when Sam got his soul back... and he told Dean at the beginning of that season that he'd been back "about a year". To me that sounds like about 18 months, so, 180 years, right? Because he was still soulless for all the time from 6.01 up through 6.11, and they did the magic fast-forward thing for us.

Anyone? Concur, disagree, anything?

I still have database admin homework to do, so someone come entertain me :)

And finally, is he not the most gorgeous man ever? Seriously.

Comments

[hlr2002.livejournal.com]

Yes! And I concur ;)

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Poor Sammy :( 180 years locked in with Lucifer, I'm surprised he's upright and functional at ALL.

I've got thing thing for his sideburns, too, in case it wasn't obvious. :)

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

Yep, 18 months. His soul was in there 18 months, so it's irrelevant that his body was only down there for whatever brief period it was in before Cas pulled it out.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

I thought Crowley pulled him out? And Cas pulled Dean out?

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

No, Cas pulled Sam's body out. Remember the bit in 6.20 (?) where Sam gets upset and asks Cas if he brought him back soulless on purpose and Cas gets all offended but it's...kind of ambiguous?

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Huh. I do not remember that. I guess my mission (if ever I finish my homework) is to rewatch S6. Gosh, what a hardship. :P

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

Urgh, I wouldn't make anyone watch 6.20 again. ;) Not my favourite episode of the season.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Yeah, true. Well. It all hinges on me FINISHING MY HOMEWORK -- honestly, I predict my brain will explode first. So, y'know, not an issue. Plus I still have programming homework, and a final to study for (my Web Development class is only an 8wk course...if I survive the next 36 hours, I'm good to go).

Ugh.

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

*pets soothingly*

You can do it, bb! Please not to make your brain explode, that would be sad for all concerned.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Heh. That crazed look in Sam's eyes in my icon actually kind of fits me right now. If my brain explodes, it won't be my doing. Here's a sample of the text I'm trying to work through right now:

Should we then make a Zip Code relation and normalize the City and State out of all our addresses? Or would that be considered overdesign? The question can be answered by going back to the anomalies, because removal of the insert, update, and delete anomalies is the entire reason we normalize data in the first place:

(Not helped by the fact that every time I see 'anomalies', I think "ooh, Dark Angel ref!" *headdesk*)

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

....wut. *scratches head* Is that even...English?

I'm a medievalist, I cannot be expected to deal with this shit. What is brain? You poor thing.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

I have no idea if it's English or not. I suspect not. (You should see programming language. Or the techie stuff that goes with XHTML coding.)

Here, have a little more. The better to scramble everyone's brains!

In this example, we must concatenate the Customer and Product Line attributes to form a primary key. However, because a given support specialist only supports one product line, it is also true that the Support Specialist attribute determines the Product Line attribute. If we had chosen a surrogate primary key instead of combining Customer and Product Line for the primary key, the third normal form violation—a non-key attribute determining another non-key attribute (Support Specialist determining Product Line in this case)—would be obvious. However, we masked the normalization error by making Product Line part of the primary key. This is why BCNF is considered a stronger version of third normal form.

Medievalist, huh? Literature? History? A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... I was a history major. I enjoyed the Middle Ages -- but remember having to very patiently explain to my husband why I, who is an agnostic on the best of days, was taking Intro to the Old Testament and History of Christianity, because in order to understand what made the Middles Ages tick you had to have a good grasp on the religious stuff. (I love your icon, btw -- it's gorgeous!)

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

Oh my God, I can't even deal with this. D: I learned Javascript once and that was bad enough. That looks like the author of the book went out of his or her way to make it as incomprehensible as possible. :/ You have my greatest respect for doing this stuff, seriously!

I'm doing a PhD technically between two departments, English Language and History. ;) It's on dialectal variation in the Scots Borders area in the early medieval period. I am a linguistic archaeologist. People are always disappointed when they get to my half-done thesis and it lacks the Indiana Jones flair that title suggests. ;)

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

A linguistic archaeologist?! Oh, man. One of these days (like, any day after Tuesday! *g*) we're gonna have to do g-chat, or something. An even LONGER time ago (I'm starting to feel like I've been around forever, hee), when I was in high school, I took Russian and Spanish. My best friend was taking Russian and German. We were all about languages and I had lofty plans to move to NYC and become a translator for the United Nations.

...none of which has anything to do with archaeology, but the language stuff, I love that. I love words, and foreign languages, and dialects, and all of that. And 'dialectal variation in the Scots Borders area, whee!. Seriously. My grandfather's family is from Scotland -- quite a few generations ago, obvs. -- his family name on his mother's side is 'Kelso'. I was very surprised and pleased to learn there is a not-far-from-the-border town by the name of Kelso (discovered when I spent a couple weeks in England in 2005, visiting with a friend of mine, and her husband).

Um. I typically ramble a lot less when I've, y'know, actually had sleep. o_O

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

Oh, hey, Kelso! I know Kelso! (I'm from the Scots Borders, if that wasn't obvious from the fact that I'm even interested in this stuff. Nobody else is. I'm using as my base text a poem that has only been edited once, in 1863. .__.) Did you go there? It's right near Floors Castle, which is pretty cool.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

This...is why I love the internet :) I don't know one single other person who knows Kelso :)

We drove around through the town circle (cobblestones! and no sheep, I was kind of surprised...), and drove past Floors Castle, but we ended up going up to, oh, hell. There's a dig site, excavation site, of an old Roman settlement near there. We ended up going there.

Vindolanda. It was going to drive me nuts until I remembered it :)

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

Vindolanda! I was just about to ask if that's where you meant. :)

Hee, it makes me so happy that you've been to my part of the world! Not very many people have!

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Oh, man. I loved your part of the world :) I would happily come back again -- it's my plan to, once I've lost enough weight that I can get around and DO stuff. I could make that a goal. And maybe I could 'hire' you as a tour guide? :)

And now I have to go create a database. Feel my joy? Heh.

[obstinatrix.livejournal.com]

:DDD I live in Oxford right now because that's where I've been at school for the past *mumble* years, but any excuse to come back up to the wild north, bb. ;)

Good luck with your database!

[mrscutedean.livejournal.com]

he is SO pretty. Just so pretty. I am in love with this cap, thank you for posting it.

[road-rhythm.livejournal.com]

18 months/180 years was my understanding, yeah.