things I don't get

[mickeym]

Okay, so, this is the summary of the kink fill: Summary: This is my fill from a prompt on spnkink-meme: "Jared adopts a five year old little boy named Jensen. Jared tries to be a normal dad but he becomes more and more attractive to Jensen. One day after giving Jensen a bath he decides he can't take it anymore. Jared starts slowly conditioning the boy to like everything his dad does to him.
He starts with little touches, then fondling the boys little cock, then teaching the boy to suck his dad's cock and vice versa.
It eventually leads to sex. I'd love a detailed description of Jared huge cock penetrating his little boy's hole.
By the time sex happens Jensen wants it so bad. His daddy training worked so well he's begging for it."
DisclaimerI do not know or own (sadly) Jared and Jensen. They belong to themselves. This is fiction please to not be suing.
Warning:EXTREME UNDERAGE, m/m sex, dub con(ish),toys and again EXTREME UNDERAGE. Possible triggers.

I'm going to speed right on past the whole consent issues/age of child/fill content because my brain will explode otherwise, and that's not really what I'm wondering about.

What I'm really not getting here is that ALL of that is outside a cut...so while yay, the author is warning for 'possible triggers' it seems to me that just reading the summary/prompt itself could be pretty damn triggery, yes? I know I've seen people put the summary/prompt under a cut, or with the shading that has to be highlighted to see...haven't I?

I mean, am I wrong here? Again, NOT commenting on the fill itself, just the manner in which it's presented. I feel sometimes like we try too hard to sanitize everything, but in this case, I find myself wondering if a comment to the author to please put the prompt under a cut with a note about how THAT is possibly triggery wouldn't be the thing to do?

Thoughts? Comments? I'm doing homework in between this, but I'll be checking back, because I'm genuinely curious as to what y'all think.


ETA: I went ahead and commented thusly: Hey, there :) I want to ask a favor here, and that be that you put the summary/prompt under a cut of its own, because that's triggery in and of itself. (Do it just as you would a cut for a story, but close it with < /lj-cut > -- without the spaces, obviously.)

I know this is a hardcore comm and all, but some things are triggers for folks even in this comm, and something that descriptive could definitely cause problems for someone.

Thanks :)

Hopefully that's to the point and not...confrontational or anything.

Comments

[embroiderama]

UGH wow, that's...something I wish people didn't want to write or read. D: I'm glad you decided to comment.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Agreed. I have issues with underage characters, even when the age difference isn't that great, or there aren't the power dynamic issues of parent/child involved.

The author did change the summary, eliminating most of the original prompt, with a note of "I can't figure out how to do two cuts in one document". I left detailed directions on how to do it, but, whatever. She did leave up the "Possible triggers", so that's good. But yeah. I wish people didn't want to read or write it, either. :-/

[embroiderama]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of underage at all. There are things that (in fic) aren't such a big deal--two young teens fumbling around, a 16 year-old with a college-age kid--and things that are intended to be a bad situation, like young Dean being taken advantage of. Those things I can see the appeal of in a fictional sense. But this, what? Happy domestic pedophilia? GROSS. I totally judge.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

My "okay with" level of underage has shifted, the older my son gets. Used to be I could read Sam being 12-14 (depending on what all was going on). Now? 16 is pretty much at the low end of that level. Likewise, like you, I can see/understand the appeal in a fictional sense of things like young Dean turning tricks to provide for Sam, etc.

But yeah, the whole pedophilia thing just makes me very, very nauseous. Any time there's the unequal power dynamic like that, combined with inability to give consent, just--ugh. No. It happens too much in real life, to real kids, for it to be anything I can be okay with.

I went back to see if the author had fixed the summary/prompt thing, and happened, in scrolling down, to see right near the end, which is supposed to be a number of years after the story begins, Jared giving his 'son' a freakin' collar, and Jensen switching between calling Jared 'Daddy' and 'Master'. He's something like 13. o_O

[zillahseye.livejournal.com]

It's so weird where you said that your idea of 'underage' has been climbing. I think my squick point's at like...25 now. *lol* I watch movies and if anyone's younger than that, I'm sort of like "ACK! YOU DON'T HAVE GENITALS! PUT SOMETHING ON!"