thoughts, or something like them, on 5x09

[mickeym]

Okay. Overall -- and after having let it settle, and thinking it through -- I liked this episode. Yeah, there were things I didn't like so much, and things that made me kind of squirmy with embarrassment, but hell, I can watch QaF, or Smallville, or Dr. Who and end up squirming with embarrassment. But enough with the fan-involvement, if only because it really blurs with the line I have in my head between "real" and "pretend" -- because it's supposed to be pretend for ME, watching it, but it's real for THEM, but it's not supposed to be real for THEM... and then I get dizzy, and when I get dizzy, I usually end up throwing up.

Not fun for anyone. Anyway!

I liked that there was an actual case. I loved Sam and Dean both turning to each other at the same time and being all, "I need a drink", at the same time. (Like Becky, I love when they talk at the same time.) I liked that the MotW had a bit of a twist to it, like in S1's Provenance. That was pretty cool, actually. I really enjoyed Barnes!Sam and Damien!Dean being a couple, and not being ashamed to show it. (And yes, okay, I totally dug that nod to Wincest. Sue me.) I love that no matter how creepy the MotW might be, if there's a kid involved AS the monster, they trump everything else. Those little boys? ARRGH. *shudders*

I didn't see that girls were portrayed as fickle, per se. I liked the scene with Becky "letting Sam down" -- and she and Chuck make a cute couple. I would totally write fanfic about them, except I think of them as "aww, cute" and not "HOMGSEX!cute". I think Becky wanted the qualities of strength, leadership, whatever that she saw in the 'fictional' Sam... but at the same time realized he's not really a viable option for her. And clearly she liked Chuck, she just needed a bit of convincing that he could be as interesting as "Sam" might be. And for what it's worth, what's-her-name, playing the "ghost", wasn't the only one scared; the first guy RPer was scared when he saw the first ghost; Barnes and Damien were clearly freaked out/scared when they saw what was really going on, and Becky never seemed to turn a hair. So. Just my $.02 worth on that.

I can't really...make any other (any *real*) arguments for/against gender stereotyping, misogyny, and so on. I don't do the whole debate thing well, and I just... I don't know. Maybe I don't see stuff, because I don't want to. Supernatural is the only network show I watch. The only series I watch. Yes, I watch programs off and on, on the History Channel, or Discover, or Animal Planet. Yes, I have shows on DVD--but SPN is the only one I watch "live", as it were, so probably my criteria for good/entertaining/whatever is a lot lower than the average person's. In fact, I would bet on it. I watch to watch two good looking guys run around and fight evil, basically. It's shallow, and I admit it. I think it's great, for those who watch it (or anything else) with a more critical eye, but I can't do that. I've never been able to do it, never wanted to do it. I just want to get lost in the story for an hour, and have that be it.

Anyway. In summation: parts of it were not my favorite thing ever; parts of it rocked out, imo. Those of you who watched who enjoyed it, yay! Those of you who didn't, I'm sorry you didn't, and hope future episodes don't disappoint so much.

And now I should probably go to bed. When the hell did it get to be midnight??

Comments

[withdiamonds.livejournal.com]

I'm with you pretty much 100% here. I liked this one a lot, even if it was kind of skewed.

I see the gender stuff, I get it, I just don't really care. It doesn't bother me. And as long as Kripke keeps making this show, I don't care if he doesn't really know who the fans are, or if he's in denial and wants to think all his fans are 18-34 year old guys. He doesn't have to know me, or even respect me, to continue making this show about these two amazing characters that I've come to love so much.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's it exactly (and this is why I don't watch a lot of shows, and rarely more than one at a time -- I can't... devote that much of myself to more than one thing at a time, if that makes sense? Probably why I'm primarily fannishly monogamous, too). He's making a show with two absolutely amazing characters that I love. The rest...*shrugs*

I probably should care, I probably should be bothered. On some level I am, I guess--I'm aware of it, anyway. That much is good. But for one hour a week, for 22 weeks a year (god, that's... that's not even two full days!), I don't want to be bothered, or thinky, or whatever. I just want to watch my show and love my boys.

[withdiamonds.livejournal.com]

I'm perfectly well aware of it. I find it more eye-rolling than annoying, usually. Mostly, I refuse to spend the energy getting all worked up, week after week, going on and on about it, and losing sight of the whole point, which is Sam and Dean. The rest is just details.

I'm not stupid. I just don't care.

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Oh no no no! I hope you didn't think I was saying you were stupid, or anything like that! I don't think so, and even if you did care, I wouldn't think so. But yeah, for me too, it's just Sam and Dean. Always.

[withdiamonds.livejournal.com]

Haha, no, I know you didn't mean I was stupid. That's just kind of my response to the occasional folks who make me tired with the constant being offended by things.

[girlmostlikely.livejournal.com]

I loved Sam and Dean both turning to each other at the same time and being all, "I need a drink", at the same time. (Like Becky, I love when they talk at the same time.)

HEEE, YES! That was AWESOME!! *g*