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Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."


Read the rest of the article here.


I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open, trying to make this make sense in my brain, and not succeeding. What the HELL? Seriously, what decade/century are we in? Also, how is it his concern how long a marriage lasts (or doesn't)? I just... yeah. I hope that couple files a discrimination suit, or something, because holy cow.

Date: 2009-10-15 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com
*blinks* Have we suddenly just been dropped in the 1950s? WTF?? I cannot believe this shit is still happening.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Dude, at least in the 1950's he wouldn't have been trying to deny he's a racist. I mean, seriously. "I don't believe in mixing the races that way"? *shakes head*

Date: 2009-10-15 10:55 pm (UTC)
ext_7625: (longfire)
From: [identity profile] kaiz.livejournal.com
Yay for post-racial America!

/sarcasm

Date: 2009-10-15 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
a-Yup. *sigh*

Good to know that stupid still breeds stupid.

Date: 2009-10-15 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zillahseye.livejournal.com
...is he high?

Date: 2009-10-15 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Sadly, I don't think so. And the best part, here, I just told Matthew about this -- I said, "A justice of the peace down in Louisiana is refusing to marry a black person and a white person--" I didn't get any further and Matthew hollers, "That's racist! What a jerk!"

Date: 2009-10-16 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet000001.livejournal.com
I want to know where he's hiding the time machine.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abx-journal.livejournal.com
I read the title of the post and thought that it was going to be an article about how much has changed. That it's going on NOW is unbelievable.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I KNOW! And man, my 14yr old Asperger's kid can see how racist it is--how can this person NOT? Sure, he might have 'piles and piles' of black friends, but if you're having issues with 'mixing races', I'm sorry. That's racism.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitanabychoice.livejournal.com
*insert tons of rage here*

I like how he uses the "concerned for the children" thing. I don't think he has any business trying to decide who can and cannot be married for any reason. As long as they have the paperwork, etc, all he has to do is say "I now pronounce you blah-and-blah."

That is so not his place to say. AUGH.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
He doesn't have any business in deciding who can or cannot be married, period. As you said, so long as they have the paperwork required by their state, it's his JOB to marry them.

Even Matthew is outraged by this, and man, he's a 14yr old boy with an autistic disorder. Pretty bad when KIDS can see how wrong something is.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raynedanser.livejournal.com
I .... Wow. I ... There's nothing out there that adequately expresses my rage over this.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raynedanser.livejournal.com
Truly. It's fucking sickening.

Date: 2009-10-16 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Yeah, pretty much my reaction, too.

And hey, isn't it awesome, how he has 'piles and piles' of black friends, and allows them to use his bathroom? /sarcasm

Jesus.

Date: 2009-10-16 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raynedanser.livejournal.com
It's been pointed out to me that he can, technically, refuse to wed anyone he wants, which is true, but he needs to not be such a douche about it.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] call-me-loca.livejournal.com
Being one half of an interracial couple, I am shaking right now. Seriously.

As for the kids not being accepted? Our boys have no idea that they are supposed to treat each other different because they aren't both 'black' or 'white', they claim they are green, Drew being slightly darker than Chris. Alayna laughs and says they're icky because they are boys. His family accepts my kids, and mine do his. They both are hinting at babies. Bright, beautiful, 'multicultural' babies.

GRRRRR

Date: 2009-10-16 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I just...don't understand why there are people in the world who can't look beyond race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, ANY of it. What the hell is this guy's problem, that he feels he can decide who should/shouldn't get married? I don't think interracial marriages are any more at risk than any other marriage, particularly in this day and age when there's so many financial problems, and layoffs, and foreclosures, increasing the pressure on people.

The least the asshole could do would be to own up to his racism, 'cos I'm sorry, but comments like, "I don't believe in mixing races that way", and the one about letting "them" use his bathroom... that's pretty fucking racist, as far as I'm concerned.

Date: 2009-10-15 11:44 pm (UTC)
pensnest: Nick Carter looking very much surprised (Nick inexplicable)
From: [personal profile] pensnest
*is gobsmacked*

Can he *do* that?

Date: 2009-10-16 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Legally, no. Supreme Court declared interracial marriage legal in Loving v. Virgina back in 1963 IIRC.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azephirin.livejournal.com
And there's another Supreme Court case that forbids racial discrimination "for the sake of the children" in family law cases. (Would have to delve into my Con Law book to find the case name, but it's from the 1970s.) I hope that guy gets so fired and, if he's a lawyer, disbarred.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Yes, yes! I know this one but can't recall the case. Ugh. My grandparents were "married" in 1959 and it was an illegal marriage so I got the case law on this stuff memorized (and I am about as far from a lawyer as you can get).

Date: 2009-10-16 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I don't think so. I'm not knowledgeable like others who've commented below, but pretty sure that falls under the discrimination laws here. At the *very* least, he shouldn't be in a position where he's able to discriminate like that.

Date: 2009-10-16 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Whoa. The husband and I were married in La, but in NOLA. Good to know we might have been denied a license. JFC.

Date: 2009-10-16 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] call-me-loca.livejournal.com
La is on our list of places since he's an LSU Alum, but GGD! I'm shaking. We never planned on THAT snafu.

Date: 2009-10-16 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Nice, huh? *shakes head* Idiots. I suppose kids could have trouble, issues with adjusting and fitting in, but then again kids can have difficulties growing up in low-income families, or if their family is a different religion, or if mom or dad is in the military and away a lot, or just because they're shorter/taller/fatter/wear glasses/braces/walk with a limp/are in a wheelchair/WHATEVER.

The only thing that's ever going to stop prejudice, and the sorts of difficulties fitting in or adjusting or whatever, is if guys like this JoP aren't allowed to discriminate. Aren't allowed to pass their racism on to others.

Date: 2009-10-16 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
We don't have kids, don't plan to gave kids but I come from a mixed race family and yeah colorism plays its part for sure but my sister passes for white and the moment anyone found out she wasn't.... things came crashing down for her.

This isn't so surprising as it is infuriating because there's a mile of case law that this dude went against -just because- he wanted to. I hope he's fired or voted out or whatever. It makes me sick.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
Seriously... wth??? I grew up in Ohio and it wasn't always the best place to live if you were anything other that caucasian. I moved out of there to get away from the lingering prejudice that still remains. It's so sad to see something like this come up now.

We have enough seriously problems to be fighting (autism epidemic anyone?) for us to have to be expending energy on this sort of blatant bigotry.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Girl, I didn't know you grew up in OH -- me too. Scary as all hell and glad to be out of there. No offense, Ohioans; obv. the South is not all that spectacular.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
there were parts of Ohio that were fine. I went to college at Ohio State University and Columbus didn't seem to have that lingering prejudice (at least to me) but I grew up in a small town outside of Ohio and it was just too much for me.

Of course... I live in Los Angeles now.. home of the freaks :P I went from one extreme to another!

Date: 2009-10-16 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Hee! Grew up in C-bus (OSU alumus too!) 9 mos out of every year from birth to 18 and it was.... an experience. Less so C-bus and more Westerville, where I went to school. My husband's family is from down near Corning, etc. and we had some run-ins down there that made my skin crawl.

I live in the Hippyville of the South now and it's pretty good here - very liberal but still enough of the South to keep me at home.

Date: 2009-10-16 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
OMG! You said Westerville! My hubby is from Westerville. Grew up there and we still go back to visit over the holidays :P

Date: 2009-10-16 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
SO DO WE!!! Omg we could meet up. The in-laws are in Delaware Co. but my mama and her husband live in Westerville still. So weird.

Sorry for the hijack, Mickey! ♥

Date: 2009-10-16 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
That would be awesome! And it would give me something to look forward to when i'm at the in-laws :P

Date: 2009-10-16 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
Me too! Mine are moving to OR so I have to be nice to them this next trip.

Date: 2009-10-16 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
And what is the Hippyville of the South? *g* I'm in Kentucky, not too far from Louisville...

Date: 2009-10-16 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maerhysetc.livejournal.com
I am in Asheville, NC. -smh- I probably pass up near you when going to Ohio. I spent a lot of time in Louisville back in 1999-2000.

Date: 2009-10-16 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
What astounds me is that no one's called him on it before now. Like, none of the couples he's turned away previously thought "huh, that's not cool". That he thinks having black people as friends, and letting them use the bathroom (that just KILLS ME) means he's not a racist.

Sorry, dude. Pulling out the "I have ______ as friends" card is one of the best, first signs. Idiot.

(And yeah, I grew up in Michigan--with a father who didn't hesitate to share his less-than-stellar opinions on anyone not caucasian. Kentucky isn't much better.)

Date: 2009-10-16 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
OMG Yes! As soon as you justify anything with 'I have friends' it makes me cringe. And I really do hope that those people sue him. People like that really need to be removed from public office. Sorry. And yeah.. the bathroom thing... like a non-racist would even THINK that letting them use his bathroom means he's not racist. Most non-racists people don't even think in terms of that.

Yeah.. I have family in Kentucky and they're worse than the Ohio family. It just frustrating to listen to people like that. Thank God my parents (somehow) managed to grow up without those prejudices and didn't raise me with them either.

And lastly... love your icon :P The heart is awesome!

Date: 2009-10-16 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillianinoz.livejournal.com
"I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."


Christ! they use my bathroom???? WTF???

Date: 2009-10-16 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Yeah, he's a prince charming, isn't he? *gags*

Date: 2009-10-16 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aislinn-tredor.livejournal.com
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because Britney Spears' marriages have been long lasting.

SAME RACE COUPLES BREAK UP ALL THE TIME TOO! WTFF? O.O

Date: 2009-10-16 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Exactly! Or Nicholas Cage. Or Elizabeth Taylor. Or HELL, my mom! She's been married four times now--all same race as her. And my ex's dad and stepmom (who is black) have been married now for... geez, probably 25 years at least. Still married, too, so far as I know. Whereas his dad and mom - same race - lasted about 10 yrs.

It makes absolutely no sense to me--and it also makes me wonder, if his definition of interracial only extends to white/any other race, or if he also means black/asian, asian/native american, etc. and so on. ANY interracial. I really do wonder.

Date: 2009-10-16 05:17 am (UTC)
ext_35214: (dean_bringitonbitch)
From: [identity profile] munibunny.livejournal.com
My hubby and I have been married 20 years and our kids are beautiful AND loved. This is injustice, plain and simple. I hope he's removed from the bench.

Date: 2009-10-16 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabularassa.livejournal.com
I can't fucking believe people even THINK like that. WTF.

Date: 2009-10-16 06:21 am (UTC)
dizmo: A simplified blob-like illustration of me. (hp - bitch please)
From: [personal profile] dizmo
...... I am gobsmacked.

Not last long? Yeah, tell that to my sister and her husband who have their twentieth anniversary in January.

Date: 2009-10-16 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeymull.livejournal.com
Not to add to the fire (okay, it totally adds to the fire), but I was just reading this article (http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/french-vogue-does-blackface-since-when-is-this-ok-525789/) and getting my WTF face on. You have no idea just how massive that face is after reading this, too. What the HELL, people?

This dude is a fucking delight. As long as you're friends with the people you're being an ignorant twatermelon to, that's okay. Jesus christ.

Date: 2009-10-16 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clumsygyrl.livejournal.com
wow. just... wow.

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